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07/11/2013 01:00 PM House ARMED SERVICES COMMITTEE


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01:13:15 PM Start
01:13:55 PM Fairbanks Community Efforts to Support the Military
02:59:14 PM Update on Association of Defense Communities Conference
03:16:26 PM Discussion of Hyjek & Fix, Inc. Recommendations
03:44:05 PM Updated Draft Eis for Eielson Air Force Base
03:49:01 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
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-- Teleconference --
Location: Fairbanks North Star Borough Assembly
Chambers - 809 Pioneer Road
- Short-term action items re: Strengthening
Alaska's Ability to Retain and Expand In-state
Missions and Facilities
- Long term action items
- Update on Association of Defense Communities
National Summit by Rep. Saddler; McHugh Pierre,
Deputy Commissioner, Dept. of Military & Veterans
Affairs; and Mayor Luke Hopkins, Fairbanks North
Star Borough
- Presentation on Fairbanks Community Efforts to
Advocate for Eielson Air Force Base by Mayor
Hopkins
- Approve committee letter commenting on Eielson
Draft Environmental Impact Statement re: Transfer
of 18th Aggressor Squadron to JBER
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
                 JOINT ARMED SERVICES COMMITTEE                                                                               
                       Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                        
                         July 11, 2013                                                                                          
                           1:13 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Dan Saddler, Co-Chair                                                                                            
Senator Pete Kelly, Co-Chair                                                                                                    
Representative Doug Isaacson                                                                                                    
Representative Geran Tarr                                                                                                       
Representative Bob Lynn                                                                                                         
Senator Fred Dyson                                                                                                              
Senator Anna Fairclough                                                                                                         
Senator John Coghill                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PUBLIC MEMBERS                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Charles "Chick" Wallace                                                                                                         
Colonel Tim Jones - (retired)                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Eric Feige                                                                                                       
Senator Bill Wielechowski                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
- Fairbanks Community Efforts to Advocate for Eielson Air Force                                                                 
Base                                                                                                                            
- Update on Association of Defense Communities (ADC) Conference                                                                 
- Discussion of Hyjek & Fix, Inc. Short-Term Recommendations                                                                    
- Long-Term Action Items for the Legislature                                                                                    
- Updated Eielson Draft EIS Regarding the Transfer of the 18th                                                                  
Aggressor Squadron to JBER                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
No previous action to record                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
LUKE T. HOPKINS, Mayor                                                                                                          
Fairbanks North Star Borough                                                                                                    
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Discussed the  Fairbanks North Star Borough's                                                             
top five military legislative priorities.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MCHUGH PIERRE, Deputy Commissioner (via teleconference)                                                                         
Department of Military & Veterans Affairs (DMVA)                                                                                
Fort Richardson, Alaska                                                                                                         
POSITION   STATEMENT:  Provided   information  relevant   to  the                                                             
discussion about supporting the military in Alaska.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
BARBARA JOHNSON, Special Assistant                                                                                              
Office of the Mayor                                                                                                             
Fairbanks North Star Borough                                                                                                    
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT:  Provided   information  about  Section  331                                                             
contracting between local governments and the military.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MAJOR GENERAL THOMAS H. KATKUS (via teleconference)                                                                             
Adjutant General and Commissioner                                                                                               
Alaska Department of Military & Veterans Affairs (DMVA)                                                                         
Fort Richardson, Alaska                                                                                                         
POSITION   STATEMENT:  Provided   information  relevant   to  the                                                             
discussion about supporting the military in Alaska.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COLONEL TIMOTHY P. O'BRIEN                                                                                                      
Assistant Adjutant General and Commander                                                                                        
Alaska Air National Guard                                                                                                       
Fort Richardson, Alaska                                                                                                         
POSITION   STATEMENT:  Provided   information  relevant   to  the                                                             
discussion about supporting the military in Alaska.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
DIANE HUTCHISON, Presiding Officer                                                                                              
Fairbanks North Star Borough Assembly                                                                                           
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Discussed the  importance of joint  land use                                                             
studies to minimize land use conflicts.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:13:15 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR DAN  SADDLER called the  Joint Armed  Services Committee                                                             
meeting to  order at 1:13  p.m. [Due to  technology difficulties,                                                               
there is  no audio recording  of the beginning of  this meeting.]                                                               
Present at the meeting were  Senators Coghill, Dyson, Fairclough,                                                               
and  Co-Chair Kelly;  and Representatives  Isaacson, Tarr,  Lynn,                                                               
and  Co-Chair  Saddler.  Public   members  present  were  Charles                                                               
"Chick" Wallace and Colonel Tim Jones.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
^Fairbanks Community Efforts to Support the Military                                                                            
      Fairbanks Community Efforts to Support the Military                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:13:55 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR SADDLER stated  that this meeting is a follow  up to the                                                               
presentation from consultant Steve Hyjek  of Hyjek & Fix, Inc. on                                                               
June  25th in  Anchorage.  He  laid out  an  ambitious agenda  to                                                               
defend Alaska's  military missions  and facilities  in an  era of                                                               
budget  cuts,   Base  Realignment   and  Closures   (BRACs),  and                                                               
sequestration.  That agenda  will take  a  lot of  hard work  and                                                               
cooperation  by  Alaskans to  maintain  a  healthy and  necessary                                                               
military  presence in  Alaska. This  committee  and Alaskans  are                                                               
capable of this work as evidenced  by the good work by the people                                                               
in  Fairbanks.   He  thanked  Mayor  Hopkins   for  inviting  the                                                               
committee to  Fairbanks and the  leadership at Eielson  Air Force                                                               
Base (AFB) for hosting a tour of the base.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SADDLER relayed  that this  meeting is  intended to  be                                                               
more of a  work session than a formal committee  meeting to cover                                                               
the  items  laid out  on  the  expanded  agenda. He  asked  Mayor                                                               
Hopkins  to   introduce  himself   and  his   aide  and   give  a                                                               
presentation on  what Fairbanks is  doing to defend the  F-16s at                                                               
Eielson AFB.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:15:45 PM                                                                                                                    
LUKE T. HOPKINS, Mayor, Fairbanks  North Star Borough, Fairbanks,                                                               
Alaska,   introduced  himself   and  Special   Assistant  Barbara                                                               
Johnson.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MCHUGH  PIERRE, Deputy  Commissioner,  Department  of Military  &                                                               
Veterans Affairs  (DMVA), Fort Richardson, Alaska,  reported that                                                               
he and General Katkus were attending the meeting telephonically.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MAYOR HOPKINS said  that the community has never  shied away from                                                               
supporting  the  military,  specifically  Eielson  AFB  and  Fort                                                               
Wainwright. For example, during  the 2005 BRAC Commission meeting                                                               
in  Fairbanks  the  community  showed  that  the  Commission  was                                                               
relying on  inaccurate numbers. Although the  A-10s were removed,                                                               
the  F-16s stayed.  Through the  years  the community  positioned                                                               
itself to  push back future  BRACs. He  cited the Joint  Land Use                                                               
Study as an example.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MAYOR HOPKINS  discussed the actions to  counter the announcement                                                               
six months  ago to move  the F-16s from  Eielson AFB as  a budget                                                               
saving action.  The borough hired consultants,  started the Tiger                                                               
Team, and  engaged congressional delegation staff  both local and                                                               
in Washington,  D.C. The  three mayors  packaged a  response that                                                               
pointed out the faulty numbers  in the Site Activation Task Force                                                               
(SATAF)  report, and  the  congressional delegation  collectively                                                               
sent a  request to the  Air Force to  include all the  effects of                                                               
relocating  the  F-16s  in  the  environmental  impact  statement                                                               
(EIS),  not just  the dollars.  He explained  that the  draft EIS                                                               
will be  on the  agenda in  a public hearing  next week,  and the                                                               
three  mayors  and  community  leaders  will  be  delivering  the                                                               
message that it relies on inaccurate data.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
He mentioned  the public/private  solution group  that contracted                                                               
to  supply  a  SWOT (Strengths,  Weaknesses,  Opportunities,  and                                                               
Threats)  analysis  for  how the  community  should  respond.  He                                                               
declined to  distribute copies and  instead offered to  provide a                                                               
brief outline. He described a  recent meeting with General Brooks                                                               
and General Carlisle to discuss  the issues in the SWOT analysis.                                                               
At the  very top of  the list is the  cost of energy  at military                                                               
installations within the FNSB.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:31:10 PM                                                                                                                    
MAYOR HOPKINS noted  that Senator Kelly asked him  to discuss the                                                               
borough's  top five  legislative  priorities  for supporting  the                                                               
military.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MAYOR HOPKINS  said the top  priority is to lower  base operating                                                               
costs at Eielson AFB and other installations within the borough.                                                                
According to the Defense Logistics  Office, the contract cost for                                                               
coal delivered to Fort Wainwright  and Eielson AFB has risen from                                                               
$57/ton to  $75-$78/ton. If the state  were to agree to  pay down                                                               
part  of that  cost, it  would  reduce base  operating costs,  he                                                               
said.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MAYOR HOPKINS discussed the effect  that replacing the boilers at                                                               
Eielson AFB  will have on  air quality, the  proposed regulations                                                               
for  air  quality  mitigation  control   measures,  and  the  EPA                                                               
decision to not  back away from the ambient  air quality standard                                                               
for  particulate  matter. He  suggested  moving  the air  quality                                                               
issue  forward and  submitting a  state implementation  plan that                                                               
has control measures that are  scientifically documented and show                                                               
attainment by 2014. The  Department of Environmental Conservation                                                               
(DEC) is working on  a plan that will be submitted  to the EPA by                                                               
December  2013. He  emphasized the  need to  address air  quality                                                               
before the  federal government has  made a decision  about basing                                                               
because of it.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MAYOR  HOPKINS deferred  to Ms.  Johnson to  discuss Section  331                                                               
intergovernmental  service agreements.  He relayed  that she  and                                                               
McHugh  Pierre met  with representatives  from the  bases in  the                                                               
Interior and JBER for a kickoff meeting in early June.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:42:55 PM                                                                                                                    
BARBARA  JOHNSON,   Special  Assistant,  Office  of   the  Mayor,                                                               
Fairbanks  North  Star  Borough,   Fairbanks,  Alaska,  said  she                                                               
learned about  Section 331 contracting between  local governments                                                               
and  the  military at  a  conference  she attended  in  Monterey,                                                               
California.  She   described  the  joint  powers   agreement  and                                                               
contracts  that Monterey  and the  adjacent community  of Seaside                                                               
have to  provide services to  the military. The  contract started                                                               
small and 14  years later has grown to more  than $3 million. She                                                               
noted that the Section 331  law was broadened recently to include                                                               
contracts of almost any kind.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
She explained that on June 6,  2012 a core group of three mayors,                                                               
lead military officials from local  bases, and the state military                                                               
officials  met to  discuss Section  331 joint  powers agreements.                                                               
Eight workgroups were  identified to focus on  the specific areas                                                               
of    public    works,     procurement,    emergency    services,                                                               
transportation,  family support  services, communications,  human                                                               
resources,  and the  airport. She  noted that  although the  core                                                               
group  initially   wanted  three   small  ideas  that   could  be                                                               
implemented quickly,  any idea that's  brought forward  is placed                                                               
in a database that can be referenced later.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS JOHNSON  described some  of the ideas  generated to  date. The                                                               
public  works  group  proposed starting  with  a  small  elevator                                                               
contract. Another  proposal is to  contract with  Fort Wainwright                                                               
to  use  the  vehicle  maintenance  facility  that  the  City  of                                                               
Fairbanks is  currently building.  She highlighted that  the base                                                               
needs  one right  now. A  more long-term  proposal is  to jointly                                                               
find a way to  dispose of coal ash. One suggestion  is to put the                                                               
ash in  the borough landfill and  have each entity pay  a prorata                                                               
share.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
She said another idea  is to find ways to share  use and costs of                                                               
the new  emergency operations center in  Fairbanks. These sharing                                                               
ideas  include: dispatch  capabilities, specialty  certifications                                                               
for  maintenance  of  police  and  fire  systems,  standards  for                                                               
purchase  of equipment  that's used  in  Alaska, and  specialized                                                               
response capabilities like a dive team.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS.  JOHNSON explained  that on  July 22,  2013 a  representative                                                               
from each  of the  work groups  will meet  and present  the ideas                                                               
that their  work group developed. She  said she will pass  to the                                                               
core group the information from that meeting.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
She reported  that Katherine Hammack  and Kathleen  Ferguson both                                                               
made it  clear that Section  331 contracts are very  important to                                                               
the military, and that Alaska is ahead of the curve.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:50:05 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR FAIRCLOUGH asked  what a realistic timeframe  would be on                                                               
an intergovernmental service agreement.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. JOHNSON replied  it depends on the idea  that's selected. For                                                               
example,  if the  elevator maintenance  contract  is selected  it                                                               
will be  necessary to work  through the existing  contracts, each                                                               
of which ends at a different time.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR FAIRCLOUGH  relayed that the base  representatives appear                                                               
ready to  look at those contracts  and try to find  cost savings,                                                               
but it may take some time for the regulations to trickle down.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SADDLER  commented that Alaska  is moving faster  than a                                                               
lot  of  communities  and  from   his  perspective  the  push  is                                                               
worthwhile.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MAYOR  HOPKINS  highlighted that  the  Air  Force and  Army  have                                                               
different  procurement requirements.  The Assistant  Secretary of                                                               
the Army  said that in  30 days the  regulations will be  out and                                                               
ready to use,  whereas the Air Force is still  looking at how the                                                               
regulations  will  work.  He  suggested  moving  forward  on  the                                                               
elevator contract.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  FAIRCLOUGH   cautioned  that  the  state   needs  to  be                                                               
realistic as a  partner, because the DOD has a  structure that is                                                               
beyond the direct control of the state.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:54:44 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. JOHNSON offered  to share an article about  Section 331s, and                                                               
noted that Katherine Hammack cautioned  that it's a slow process.                                                               
She expressed enthusiasm going forward.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  FAIRCLOUGH  offered  her belief  that  other  government                                                               
agencies are also  enthusiastic, but they don't want  to have the                                                               
bureaucracy  of  writing  regulations  get  in  the  way  of  the                                                               
enthusiasm to accomplish the task.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SADDLER mentioned a conversation  about how the military                                                               
had  tried to  contract with  private businesses  and that  those                                                               
would  be competition  for  Section 331  government-to-government                                                               
relationships.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
UNIDENTIFIED  SPEAKER  clarified  that because  DOD,  SECAF,  and                                                               
PACCOM  have separate  decision-making  processes, General  Kelly                                                               
isn't certain of the timeframe.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ISAACSON asked  Mayor  Hopkins if  the Air  Force                                                               
would  see a  significant  savings  if there  was  a Section  331                                                               
agreement for the coal contracts.  He noted that the current coal                                                               
contract extends to 2015.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MAYOR HOPKINS said  yes, and added that his attitude  on the coal                                                               
issue is to keep pushing and moving as fast as possible.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ISAACSON  said the  briefing today  indicated that                                                               
to  bring  the  coal  to   new  environmental  standards  through                                                               
injections may double the cost.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:58:25 PM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE TARR asked Mayor Hopkins  if he was suggesting the                                                               
legislature  subsidize  coal to  reduce  the  cost of  energy  at                                                               
Alaska bases.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MAYOR HOPKINS  answered yes, and  added that Alaska  is competing                                                               
with what other states are doing for their military bases.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:59:51 PM                                                                                                                    
MAYOR   HOPKINS  said   the  next   item  of   priority  is   the                                                               
privatization activities  at Eielson  AFB that  Fairbanks utility                                                               
providers  can participate  in. He  noted that  General Hoog  has                                                               
started looking  at how to  manage the cost of  energy production                                                               
at Fort Greely, Eielson AFB, Fort Wainwright, and Clear AFB.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The  next  priority is  land  use  in  the Fairbanks  North  Star                                                               
Borough, which  gets into  the existing  joint land  use actions.                                                               
Generals from  both the  Army and  the Air  Force have  said that                                                               
limiting and  working on  encroachments at  Eielson AFB  and Fort                                                               
Wainwright is a  top priority. Part of that  discussion is buying                                                               
property  to restrict  future  activity,  zoning regulations  for                                                               
impact zones, and the issue of noise overlay.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SADDLER asked him to  speak briefly about the joint land                                                               
use process.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MAYOR HOPKINS explained that in late  2005 or early 2006 the FNSB                                                               
received  a grant  for  a joint  land use  study  that looked  at                                                               
working cooperatively  to reduce  encroachment by a  community on                                                               
the  military,  and the  effect  of  military operations  on  the                                                               
community. The study  was done and eventually  the borough formed                                                               
a  policy  group  and  a technical  group  similar  to  Anchorage                                                               
Metropolitan Area Transportation  Solutions (AMATS) and Fairbanks                                                               
Metropolitan  Area Transportation  Solutions (FMATS).  The policy                                                               
group worked to resolve the 58  items that were identified in the                                                               
study, and nearly two-thirds of  the items have been addressed. A                                                               
second $175,000 grant  put people to work on  the remaining, more                                                               
difficult issues associated  with the joint land  use process. He                                                               
noted  that there  have been  public participation  meetings this                                                               
week.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:07:02 PM                                                                                                                    
MAYOR HOPKINS  said another item  on the list is  force structure                                                               
additions. This  refers to adding  planes to the missions  of the                                                               
168th  refueling  wing  and  working  toward  getting  an  active                                                               
association so that more Air  Force personnel can support the Air                                                               
National  Guard operations.  He said  this is  on his  short list                                                               
because the Guard currently has to  turn away about 40 percent of                                                               
the mission requests.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ISAACSON commented  that it  would be  helpful to                                                               
hear   from  General   Katkus'  office   regarding  the   complex                                                               
agreements for who pays for  the assets, and what supporting role                                                               
the legislature might play.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MAYOR  HOPKINS  mentioned  the  Unmanned  Aircraft  System,  Gray                                                               
Eagle,  and cautioned  against passing  laws  and taking  actions                                                               
that would  encumber flying  new programs  in new  areas, because                                                               
that affects  military decisions.  He said  the decision  to keep                                                               
the segregated airspace  over Eielson AFB as it  leads into JPARC                                                               
is  a  priceless  venture  that  the  state  should  continue  to                                                               
support.  He noted  that  the legislature  took  a very  sensible                                                               
action in  the last session to  establish a [task force]  to look                                                               
at how unmanned aerial systems are used.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Another  force  structure  addition that's  under  discussion  is                                                               
forward basing Coast Guard fixed  wing aircraft at Eielson AFB in                                                               
response to Arctic activities and  issues. The last major item on                                                               
the SWOT  analysis is more  opportunities for the  Royal Canadian                                                               
Air Force to be forward based at Eielson Air Force Base.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:18:16 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR SADDLER  asked General  Katkus if he  had a  response to                                                               
Mayor Hopkins comments.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MAJOR   GENERAL   THOMAS   H.  KATKUS,   Adjutant   General   and                                                               
Commissioner, Alaska  Department of  Military &  Veterans Affairs                                                               
(DMVA), Fort  Richardson, Alaska, deferred to  Colonel O'Brien to                                                               
discuss the 168th Air Refueling Wing.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
COLONEL  TIMOTHY  P.  O'BRIEN,  Assistant  Adjutant  General  and                                                               
Commander, Alaska  Air National  Guard, Fort  Richardson, Alaska,                                                               
stated that force structure additions  to the 168th Air Refueling                                                               
Wing at  Eielson Air force  Base is the  right thing to  do. They                                                               
currently have  more missions  than they can  do on  a day-to-day                                                               
basis; they're operating  at full capacity and have  a 24/7 alert                                                               
for North American Aerospace Defense  (NORAD). He noted that both                                                               
NORAD and NORTHCOM  have asked to have a second  tanker on alert,                                                               
but that's not possible because it  would take too much time away                                                               
from  training. Because  about  40 percent  of  the requests  are                                                               
turned away, the proposal is to  bring in an active associate. He                                                               
explained that he is laying the  groundwork to enlist the help of                                                               
a  proponent  and  it  seems  that General  Silva  would  be  the                                                               
appropriate person. However, new  missions will be very difficult                                                               
to acquire because of the budget, he cautioned.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:20:31 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  COGHILL asked  General Katkus  to comment  on the  issue                                                               
that Representative  Isaacson brought up regarding  who would pay                                                               
for the planes.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
GENERAL  KATKUS replied  their efforts  will be  directed to  AMC                                                               
[Air Mobility Command].                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ISAACSON asked  him  to follow  up with  specific                                                               
suggestions  regarding  where  the  committee  could  direct  its                                                               
"cheerleading" efforts  and whether  it involves a  discussion of                                                               
dedicated funds.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:22:37 PM                                                                                                                    
GENERAL KATKUS agreed to prepare a paper with talking points.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SADDLER asked him to direct the letter to his office.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
GENERAL KATKUS agreed.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SADDLER asked  Colonel O'Brien  if he  had any  further                                                               
comments.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
COLONEL O'BRIEN  offered to share  a small talking paper  on what                                                               
it  would take  to put  an associate  against the  168th, how  it                                                               
would be structured and how it would be phased in.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
GENERAL KATKUS thanked the committee  and expressed gratitude for                                                               
the level of engagement.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:23:52 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR KELLY asked  Mayor Hopkins if he  discussed with General                                                               
Katkus  the FNSB's  top five  priorities for  the legislature  to                                                               
support  the  military  at  Eielson   Air  Force  Base  and  Fort                                                               
Wainwright, and if they meshed with his priorities.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MAYOR  HOPKINS   replied  the  priorities  probably   don't  mesh                                                               
exactly, but many goals are common.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  KELLY offered  his understanding  that  Mr. Pierre  and                                                               
General  Katkus  didn't  have   the  five  points  available  for                                                               
disclosure, but that would be forthcoming.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
GENERAL KATKUS  responded that it would  be one of the  topics of                                                               
discussion for the meeting this afternoon.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR KELLY asked  him to convey to the  Alaska Force Advocacy                                                               
and Structure  Team (AMFAST) that  he wants the efforts  of Mayor                                                               
Hopkins's  office,   General  Katkus's   office,  and   the  JASC                                                               
committee to  mesh with what AMFAST  is doing. He added  that the                                                               
project he is most interested in is the hanger at Barrow.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
GENERAL  KATKUS  replied that  is  a  moving target  because  the                                                               
center  of  the offshore  drilling  may  change, but  it's  still                                                               
viable to  evaluate. He agreed  that the strategic  approach that                                                               
AMFAST provides  is much  larger than  just the  approach towards                                                               
the  immediate problem  with Eielson  AFB. He  committed to  work                                                               
cooperatively with all stakeholders.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:27:13 PM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE  TARR  requested  that the  DMVA  notice  upcoming                                                               
meetings for the public.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. PIERRE said DMVA is reaching  out to city council members and                                                               
has  hired a  grass roots  consulting company  in efforts  to get                                                               
Anchorage to  participate and ask  on the  EIS for a  position of                                                               
"no  action"   regarding  the  F-16s.  This   has  been  somewhat                                                               
successful. Mayor Sullivan has given  tentative support, folks in                                                               
the  MatSu  Borough are  generally  supportive,  and efforts  are                                                               
underway  to get  borough officials  to support  the "no  action"                                                               
clause. He asked the committee members to help spread the word.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. PIERRE listed  the times and locations  of upcoming meetings:                                                               
Monday, 6  pm at  the Palmer  Fairgrounds; Tuesday,  6 pm  at the                                                               
Mountain  View  Boys and  Girls  Club;  Wednesday,  6 pm  at  the                                                               
Westmark; and North Pole, 6 pm at the North Pole Worship Center.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SADDLER  thanked  General  Katkus and  Mr.  Pierre  for                                                               
joining the meeting.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MAYOR HOPKINS summarized the Fairbanks  North Star Borough (FNSB)                                                               
five priority points to support the military:                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1)  Buy down  the price  of coal  - FNSB  is seeking  legislative                                                               
support   for   reducing   coal  prices   for   Alaska   military                                                               
installations so they're  competitive with military installations                                                               
nationwide.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2) Energy infrastructure financing  - FNSB is seeking legislative                                                               
support for  providing financing  for energy  infrastructure that                                                               
is more efficient or providing  a means of sharing energy between                                                               
installations.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3) Pioneer  roads within the  Joint Pacific Alaska  Range Complex                                                               
(JPARC) -  FNSB is seeking  legislative support to  expand access                                                               
to training grounds within JPARC.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4) Unmanned Aircraft  Systems (UAS) - FNSB  is seeking continuing                                                               
legislative  support   for  UAS   and  has  partnered   with  the                                                               
University  of Alaska  Fairbanks (UAF)  seeking FAA  approval for                                                               
the borough  to be  designated one of  six test  sites nationwide                                                               
for UAS.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
5) Local  tax exemptions  within a military  facility zone  - The                                                               
FNSB is  seeking JASC support  for legislation to create  a local                                                               
tax  exemption for  up to  10 years  for property  in a  military                                                               
facility zone  that creates or  supports development  of industry                                                               
and   educational   or   training  opportunities   that   support                                                               
operations and missions of the military.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS.  JOHNSON  explained that  the  FNSB  offers a  tax  exemption                                                               
and/or  deferral to  businesses for  up  to five  years, and  the                                                               
current  proposal  is   to  offer  a  10   year  deferral  and/or                                                               
exemption. The intent is to  increase the number of businesses in                                                               
the  community that  support  the military  at  Eielson AFB.  She                                                               
anticipates that the Gray Eagle will  be based at Eielson AFB and                                                               
that the  borough will  be selected  as one of  the six  FAA test                                                               
sites nationally.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:39:05 PM                                                                                                                    
MAYOR HOPKINS responded  to a question from  Co-Chair Saddler and                                                               
explained  that there  is  no new  financing  specifically for  a                                                               
military facility zone. He continued  to say he would support the                                                               
State of  Alaska giving special  benefit for activities  that are                                                               
associated with a military base.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE TARR  asked if the  businesses located in  the tax                                                               
exempt zone are civilian owned  support services for the military                                                               
complex or any business located within that geographic area.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MAYOR  HOPKINS  answered  that  the  legislation  identifies  the                                                               
business    as   an    enterprise   associated    with   military                                                               
installations.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:42:06 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  JOHNSON  added  that the  legislation  doesn't  force  local                                                               
government to do something; it provides  a tool for an option for                                                               
tax deferral or exemption.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR FAIRCLOUGH  asked if  this would  be revenue  neutral for                                                               
the state,  or if  the Mayor was  asking to have  a pot  of money                                                               
available to help finance new businesses.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. JOHNSON  clarified that  the proposal  is revenue  neutral to                                                               
the state. It would be a  local decision for the local government                                                               
to give up the tax revenue.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MAYOR HOPKINS  added that the first  part of the proposal  is for                                                               
state support  of UAVs (Unmanned  Aerial Vehicles) in  support of                                                               
military  operations. The  second part  is a  proposal to  change                                                               
state  statutes relating  to optional  exemptions and  exclusions                                                               
available to local governments.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  FAIRCLOUGH observed  that there  is a  potential request                                                               
for additional  money, and because of  Fairbanks' experience with                                                               
revenue shortfalls she wonders if  this is Fairbanks' priority or                                                               
the  Mayor's priority  for how  to  help the  military. She  said                                                               
she'd  like to  know  if  Fairbanks is  willing  to forego  other                                                               
opportunities   or  requests   of   the  State   of  Alaska   for                                                               
participation in the articulated priority list.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MAYOR HOPKINS said  BRAC actions will probably  continue and it's                                                               
necessary to prepare  for that. This committee can  have a change                                                               
in mission in support of  the military statewide, and he's asking                                                               
it to look at all the  possibilities. He acknowledged that he has                                                               
his opinions on how the money  should be divided and everyone may                                                               
not agree,  but he's looking  at the short term  and preparations                                                               
for a potential  2014 BRAC. Moving 800 troops away  from JBER and                                                               
having  552 troops  come to  Fort  Wainwright is  just the  first                                                               
amending action in a community's budget, he said.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:49:12 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR FAIRCLOUGH said she supports  trying to retain people and                                                               
fighting  for  Alaska  and  its   fair  share.  There  are  still                                                               
opportunities  to  invest, but  choices  have  to be  made.  With                                                               
regard to the  suggestion that the state buy  boilers for Eielson                                                               
AFB, she  pointed out  that they  each cost  $27 million.  If the                                                               
state  invests in  those and  the facilities  move, those  assets                                                               
should  come  back  as  resources  to  the  state.  However,  the                                                               
Anchorage community has  been given indications that  some of the                                                               
military  property will  never become  available  because of  the                                                               
liability associated with artillery and ordnance.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ISAACSON  added to  the discussion about  what can                                                               
be  done  to  induce  private  investment.  He  observed  that  a                                                               
Military Facility Zone (MFZ) isn't  necessarily a creation of the                                                               
borough, because it works in  any space that's assigned to induce                                                               
private  businesses.  He  continued   to  talk  about  attracting                                                               
businesses like  Boeing, McDonnell  Douglas, Lockheed  Martin, or                                                               
Raytheon and  what it would  mean to  attract a plant  that could                                                               
employ 50-100 people in very high-paying jobs.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MAYOR  HOPKINS highlighted  that the  Department of  Energy (DOE)                                                               
just  announced it  is putting  out  $8 billion  in federal  loan                                                               
guarantees  for projects  and developing  technology that  reduce                                                               
carbon  emissions from  extracting and  burning fossil  fuels. If                                                               
the state  has a  proposal that  shows it  does reduce  carbon in                                                               
extracting and  burning coal, there  could be an  application for                                                               
some of that loan guarantee.  He suggested that the congressional                                                               
delegation  could  perhaps  provide more  information  about  the                                                               
program.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:54:18 PM                                                                                                                    
MAYOR HOPKINS  said the FNSB  Assembly has committed  $370,000 in                                                               
the last 15 months to push  back against the reduction in mission                                                               
at Eielson  AFB, while  also looking  for new  missions. However,                                                               
there's a lot of competition from other states.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
DIANE HUTCHISON, Presiding Officer,  Fairbanks North Star Borough                                                               
Assembly, stated that  prior to being on the  assembly she worked                                                               
for Senator Ted  Stevens. One particular issue she  worked on was                                                               
to emphasize  the importance of joint  land use studies so  as to                                                               
minimize   land  use   conflicts.  The   Senator  believed   that                                                               
communities   adjacent  to   military  installations   should  do                                                               
everything possible  to minimize  land use conflicts,  because it                                                               
would better the community's chance  of maintaining the base. She                                                               
continued to  say that as  an assembly  member, she is  trying to                                                               
support  this  position  and  do  what she  can  to  promote  the                                                               
military.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
^Update on Association of Defense Communities Conference                                                                        
    Update on Association of Defense Communities Conference                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:59:14 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR SADDLER said the second agenda  item is an update on the                                                               
Association  of Defense  Communities (ADC)  conference. He  asked                                                               
Mayor Hopkins to review the highlights.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MAYOR HOPKINS reported  that two years ago his  office joined the                                                               
200 communities nationwide  that are members of the  ADC to voice                                                               
concern about  the involvement of military  in their communities.                                                               
That has  paid off.  The conferences  he's attended  have spelled                                                               
out tenant opportunities  for Eielson AFB, although  that will be                                                               
affected  by  the point  discussed  earlier  about reducing  base                                                               
operating costs for Eielson AFB  and Fort Wainwright. He reminded                                                               
the committee  that there is  competition from other  states that                                                               
are committed to attract investment and maintain missions.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
At the most recent ADC  conference the military asked ADC members                                                               
in the  audience to encourage their  congressional delegations to                                                               
bring a  BRAC forward. Their view  is that it is  the fairest way                                                               
to  evaluate  which  bases  should   be  reduced,  and  it  keeps                                                               
partisanship out  of the equation.  That being said,  Congress is                                                               
not moving forward with any BRAC action at this time, he said.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:05:58 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR SADDLER discussed what he  took from the most recent ADC                                                               
conference. He said the general  message was that there are still                                                               
significant  budget  reductions ahead  for  the  DOD. The  Budget                                                               
Control  Act  cut  a  tremendous amount  out  of  the  military's                                                               
capacity.  The  Army  cut  8  of its  45  brigade  combat  teams.                                                               
Sequestration extends budget cuts across  half of the fiscal year                                                               
and has  resulted in tremendous  cutbacks. Added to  that, future                                                               
BRACs  will   occur  because  there   is  huge   excess  capacity                                                               
nationwide  in  U.S.  military  facilities.  The  overseas  force                                                               
structure  has already  been cut  47 percent  and the  budget has                                                               
been  cut 55  percent. The  excess capacity  is a  drain and  the                                                               
military  could operate  more efficiently  if it  could trim  the                                                               
excess.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SADDLER  said the 2005 BRAC  gave BRACs a bad  name, but                                                               
they aren't  the worst  thing that could  happen if  they include                                                               
protections,  process,  standards and  impact  aids  for ways  to                                                               
redevelop  facilities. The  budget cutbacks  aren't cutting  just                                                               
the fat; flying hours and  training and maneuvers are all reduced                                                               
and research and development is  shortchanged as well. He relayed                                                               
that  he heard  that  it  is probably  more  harmful to  national                                                               
security  to  defer  training  and   maintenance  than  to  close                                                               
facilities.   Weapons  systems   aren't   being  funded,   rescue                                                               
helicopters  are being  deferred and  the C-27  program was  cut.                                                               
It's just fortunate that the  military is open to innovative ways                                                               
to save money and improve  efficiency. The Seaside/Monterey model                                                               
that Ms. Johnson described demonstrates this.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SADDLER discussed what the  military is doing to improve                                                               
efficiency  of operations  by sharing  power and  transmission to                                                               
make  every  dollar count.  He  said  there  has been  effort  to                                                               
privatize  base  functions,  and  this  may  include  privatizing                                                               
housing at Eielson AFB.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:12:09 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  COGHILL  opined  that  land  use  issues  will  be  more                                                               
ticklish  in  Alaska, because  of  other  federal land  ownership                                                               
issues.  If, for  example,  the state  builds  pioneer roads  and                                                               
restricts hunting access, there  will be significant pushback. He                                                               
suggested looking  to states  like Nevada and  Arizona to  see if                                                               
they had a solution for competing federal land issues.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE TARR asked  how much catching up Alaska  has to do                                                               
to be competitive with other states.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MAYOR HOPKINS  opined that  Alaska isn't at  the bottom  but it's                                                               
nowhere near  the half-way  point. He offered  to follow  up with                                                               
figures after the next ADC conference.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
^Discussion of Hyjek & Fix, Inc. Recommendations                                                                                
        Discussion of Hyjek & Fix, Inc. Recommendations                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:16:26 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR SADDLER  said the  next agenda item  is to  allocate the                                                               
action  items that  Steve  Hyjek discussed  at  the last  meeting                                                               
according to short-term and long-term.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1) Action  Item: Actively Reduce  Energy Costs to  the Department                                                             
of Defense in Alaska.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
He  asked if  there was  any discussion  to add  to the  specific                                                               
actions that Mayor Hopkins and others have suggested.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  FAIRCLOUGH  stated  for  the record  that  she  supports                                                               
keeping the F-16s  in the hangers at Eielson AFB,  and she stands                                                               
with  the mayor  and the  community of  Fairbanks to  ensure that                                                               
happens.  That  being  said,  she  suggested  asking  legislative                                                               
attorneys  to  look at  the  Interstate  Commerce Clause  in  the                                                               
context of the proposal by Mayor  Hopkins to buy down the cost of                                                               
coal,  and  possibly  the   proposal  for  energy  infrastructure                                                               
financing. She  wondered whether  these proposals might  face the                                                               
same problems as legislation in  a previous session that tried to                                                               
reduce the cost of gasoline in Alaska.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SADDLER said it's a good  point and added that he's been                                                               
proud of the delegation and  the legislature in general. He noted                                                               
that Mr. Hyjek  emphasized that the State of Alaska  has to speak                                                               
with one voice when it comes to basic decisions.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  TARR asked  if the  action items  were listed  in                                                               
order of expected impact.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SADDLER  replied he didn't  believe so, and moved  on to                                                               
Action Item 2.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2)   Action  Item:   Develop   State,   Community  and   Industry                                                             
Partnerships That Cut Costs to Military Installations in Alaska.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
He  offered  his   belief  that  this  relates   to  Section  331                                                               
intergovernmental  agreements. He  requested that  the FNSB  keep                                                               
the committee  informed of the  results of their efforts  in this                                                               
regard.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE TARR asked if this  action item would apply to the                                                               
proposed statutory change  to provide the option for  a local tax                                                               
exemption  for   property  in  a   military  facility   zone.  [A                                                               
suggestion was made to hold  the question until the discussion on                                                               
Action Item 5.]                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER  suggested that any Section  331 partnership                                                               
with the Air  Force on boiler replacement at Clear  AFB should be                                                               
given number  one priority because  the Air Force  is considering                                                               
buying power  from Golden Valley Electric  Association (GVEA) and                                                               
doing  away with  their power  plant. If  this occurs,  GVEA will                                                               
have to  generate more  power with oil,  which will  increase the                                                               
cost  of energy  for everyone  in Fairbanks  and the  surrounding                                                               
communities. He  acknowledged that  this doesn't do  anything for                                                               
Eielson AFB but it does a lot of good for a lot of people.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:24:09 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR FAIRCLOUGH  asked, with regard  to Action Item 2,  if the                                                               
co-chairs  would  send a  letter  encouraging  the DOD  to  write                                                               
regulations  as quickly  as possible  to  provide local  military                                                               
facilities  the  opportunity to  engage  in  agreements to  bring                                                               
cost-cutting partnerships to fruition.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SADDLER  asked Representative Isaacson if  he would work                                                               
on that letter.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ISAACSON agreed.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SADDLER asked  if there  were any  further comments  on                                                               
Action Item 2.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  TARR noted  that part  of  Action Item  2 is  the                                                               
recommendation  to  "Advance economic  partnership  opportunities                                                               
for  the U.S.  Military  in Alaska  through  the promulgation  of                                                               
military  facility economic  zones." She  asked if  the committee                                                               
should consider anything more than what was already discussed.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MAYOR HOPKINS said  that relates to the statutory  change that he                                                               
proposed.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SADDLER  commented that  the mayor's proposed  local tax                                                               
exemption within  a military facility  zone may sweeten  the idea                                                               
of  partnership opportunities.  Finding no  further questions  or                                                               
comments, he moved to Action Item 3.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3)  Action  Item: Promote  Awareness  of  Alaska's Strategic  and                                                             
Operational Value.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SADDLER  noted that  Mr.  Hyjek  recommended the  state                                                               
commission a study by the  Center for Strategic and International                                                               
Studies (CSIS)  to discuss the  strategic importance  of Alaska's                                                               
location from  a military, commerce, and  scientific perspective,                                                               
and why the  force shouldn't be reduced. He learned  that a study                                                               
would  take 6-9  months and  cost  about $150,000.  He asked  the                                                               
committee members whether  this could be done in-house  or if the                                                               
legislature  might   provide  funding  at  something   less  than                                                               
$150,000.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR KELLY offered his thoughts. [Audio indiscernible]                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:30:03 PM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE  ISAACSON  agreed with  the  idea  of getting  the                                                               
governor on board  and commented on the importance  of visuals to                                                               
get people in  Washington D.C. to understand the  value of Alaska                                                               
and what they're looking at when they view a map of the state.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
COLONEL  JONES  offered  that   the  National  Military  Strategy                                                               
identifies  the Pacific  as the  primary theatre  of concern,  so                                                               
there's  probably  nothing  more  important to  the  military  in                                                               
making  base  decisions. To  the  degree  that the  congressional                                                               
delegations can leverage that, that's  where the state's emphasis                                                               
should be. He concurred with  Representative Isaacson's point and                                                               
emphasized that  Alaska's value is  that it can provide  space in                                                               
abundance. He  emphasized the importance  on getting  everyone to                                                               
understand that no other state can provide that.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:33:17 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  COGHILL agreed  with Colonel  Jones  and emphasized  the                                                               
importance of  attaching a  dollar figure to  every mile  to show                                                               
both the strategic and economic value of Alaska.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR FAIRCLOUGH suggested  one solution is to  ask the federal                                                               
government  to  do the  analysis  for  the  state,  or do  it  in                                                               
partnership with the  state. Another possible solution  is to ask                                                               
the  Alaska DMVA  to work  with the  administration to  provide a                                                               
strategic  analysis that  the legislative  leadership team  could                                                               
present in Washington  D.C. Then when the  legislature meets next                                                               
session  it  could  make  a  decision about  whether  to  hire  a                                                               
consulting firm.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SADDLER  offered his  understanding that  the governor's                                                               
office is  currently challenged with  the analysis of  the Arctic                                                               
National Wildlife Refuge (ANWR).                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:38:23 PM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE TARR recalled that  one reason Mr. Hyjek suggested                                                               
hiring a contractor  is that it seems less  self-serving when the                                                               
state isn't  advocating for itself.  She pointed out that  one of                                                               
the recommendations  under Action Item  3 is to  collaborate with                                                               
the  states  of  Washington  and Hawaii  for  a  more  collective                                                               
impact.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SADDLER turned to Action Item 4.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4)  Action Item:  Strengthen Relationship  between  the State  of                                                             
Alaska, ALCOM, USARAK, and U.S. Coast Guard District 17.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
He deferred  Action Item 4  because it  isn't doable in  the near                                                               
term.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE TARR asked if this  committee could host a meeting                                                               
with some of those entities in the near term.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SADDLER discussed  the possibility  and suggested  that                                                               
AMFAST might be able to put the information together.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR COGHILL  offered logistical suggestions,  and highlighted                                                               
the  importance  of  maintaining   a  good  working  relationship                                                               
between the state, the local community, and the military.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR   SADDLER  suggested   that  establishing   more  formal                                                               
relationships might be helpful.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ISAACSON commended  Mayor Hopkins  for continuing                                                               
the  tradition of  having civilian/military  leadership meetings.                                                               
He observed  that some  of the  recommendations to  implement the                                                               
action items  should be addressed  by the administration  and may                                                               
be new line items in the budget.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SADDLER deferred  discussion  on  the remaining  action                                                               
items.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
^Updated Draft EIS for Eielson Air Force Base                                                                                   
          Updated Draft EIS for Eielson Air Force Base                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:44:05 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR  SADDLER  said there  is  still  time to  submit  formal                                                               
comments on the draft EIS for  Eielson AFB, and he'd like members                                                               
to review  the letter  the committee sent  in February  and offer                                                               
suggestions for  revisions. He agreed with  Representative Tarr's                                                               
suggestion to  have all  the committee  members sign  the letter,                                                               
not  just the  co-chairs. He  established a  July 19  deadline to                                                               
submit comments and suggestions to his office.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:47:10 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR SADDLER thanked  Mayor Hopkins and the  assembly for the                                                               
use of the assembly chambers.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:49:01 PM                                                                                                                    
There being  no further  business to  come before  the committee,                                                               
Co-Chair  Saddler adjourned  the Joint  Armed Services  Committee                                                               
meeting at 3:49 pm.                                                                                                             

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